The three Asian men murdered during the rioting is a disgrace and anyone says otherwise is scum but lets be clear the whole black community did not kill them as believe it or not there are law abidding citizens among us also and who are hard working. I do not nor do any other black people I know receive handouts or benefits in fact some do two jobs and pay taxes twice.The whole black community is not going around robbing innocent old women, these are lone acts of thiefs. Does this mean that all Asians are terroists and the men grooming white girls for sexual abuse among thier male communities. That is all bull too! Tarnishing all people with the same brush is just ignorant and displays a deep seated hatred.

Nobody has the licence to kill just cause or not. The police are human beings some of them with families who are doing a job. They are allowed to shoot if they have reason to believe that they or their colleagues lives are under threat. It may not have been the case that Mark Duggan fired his gun but he did have a gun which can be fired even from the inside of a sock. Some young men are hunting each other down in packs where there is no danger to life other than someone being in the wrong place at the wrong time. A few weeks ago there was a Crimewatch episode where they reconstructed the killing of a young black teenager using real CCTV footage. He was chased down by other black teens on bikes and bravely stopped to face his attackers to allow his younger brother to escape. Their lives were not under threat but they beat him to the ground and then brutally stabbed him multiple times until he died. In my opinion there should be a lot more outrage about these types of incidents. Despite the CCTV images and the £20,000 award offered as far as I'm aware no-one has come forward to identify any of the perpetrators and I find this more disgusting than the words of David Starkey or the death of Mark Duggan.

I have the utmost respect for Tariq Jahan who clearly saw the dangers of a reprise attack and immediately spoke to his community to ask them not to take action in his son's name. There was also the suggestion of a peace march and he again came out and stated that he did not want this to happen in his son's name. He clearly had the foresight to see a march under the current circumstances given the racial tension could be incendiary and lead to more violence.

I sympathise with the family of Mark Duggan but I still cannot understand given the historical troubles in Tottenham and the awareness that tensions within the community were already high why the decision was made to march to the police station at 5.30pm and not earlier in the day. I also do not understand why it was not just the immediate family and a few close friends. I'm not saying that the police are blameless but maybe they would have been more likely to come out and communicate if there had been fewer numbers. I can't remember his name but the main organiser who described himself as a community leader claimed to have warned the police that if they as protesters were still on the street after 9pm that there would certainly be trouble.
I as a black person also question why there is not this level of anger and protest when many young black males are killed at the hands of other young black males, as well as those who have been killed and injured including children because they were through no fault of their own in the wrong place at the wrong time.

No 'race' or 'community' is responsible for the murders of Haroon Jahan, Shazad Ali, and Abdul Musavir. The driver of the vehicle that hit them is. This person must be found, held publicly accountable for this heinous crime, chastised by all, and then severely punished by law.

How this murder is being reported is clearly subject to censorship for fears of reprisals. On Tuesday, the media would only document that a 32 year old man had been arrested in connection with the incident. By Wednesday, selected media were confirming that it had been black male who was arrested, but that he had been released on bail. Today, all we know is that three other people aged 16, 17 and 26 have been arrested in connection with the incident.

At no time has any media outlet commented on exactly who was driving the vehicle that killed the three gentlemen, and, despite there being so many people present at the crime scene, there have been no reported eyewitness accounts. There's clearly a media blackout going on here. Please let the truth be told. The victims, their families and the wider community deserve nothing less.

People should remember that not all black people have the same mindset as the idiots who ran down the three Asian men the other night. That would be like saying that all Muslims are terrorists! To the second poster on here, some of you're points are valid, yes, but I believe you got a bit carried away with yourself and you wonder why the EDL march on.

To the person who posted the 2nd comment, how did the Rashida Ahmed know that her 12 attackers were Jamaican? Did she see each of their passports?? You may have certain valid points but I think you've got a bit carried away with yourself dont you. Funny how you never addressed any of the points the 1st commenter made eh. Looks like you want to harp on about old news from times gone by. And please don't class all afro caribbeans as being the same as the idiots who ran over the 3 asian men because i in no way whatsoever condone it and there are many more black people who don't either. Thats a bit like saying that all muslims are terrorists isn't it? Sorry for the grammar its late and im tired.

my heart goes out to the vitims and their families of this tragic events that has occured over the past few days, it all just goes to show how uncivilized and uncoth and unculture this society has become with the mind sets we've got in todays society,we pride ourselves as a civilized people but our attitudes and the way we deal with issues and each other is so barbaric and i believe our anscestor will shake in their graves,we live in a society full of hatred,greed,anger and fear for each other be it asians,whites,blacks and all the other humans who live among us that we refuse to acknowledge.the finger pointing is not going to get us anywhere,we should deal with the real issues that's confronting this country.hopelessness,misery,and anger engulfs each and every comunity in this country.there are countries where different people have been living in harmony and love for eachother even with high levels of poverty,all the worlds races live in holland but crime is below 4percent with people happily enjoying their lives.am sorry but british people of all colour are ignorant,arrogant and petty.you have been given a problem and you have reacted,now they are going to give you a solution on their own terms.by saying they i mean the powers that are stiring up shit to accomplish their agendas.people wake up they dont give a toss about asian,white,black or chineese all they see is money.you want to put them in jails because u can't deal with the issues thus causing them to act the way they are,learn from america the whole system is an ashole with asholes running the country and the 4th arm of the government a.k.a the media keeps feeding your brains with suggestion that corrupts the way you look at your fellow human beings through material gains,social class and stereotypes.we will only wake up one day to realize that we are all being used as tools to promote one agender for these bankers and their politician friends who get appointed by their banker friends as chairmen and C.E.Os of their cooperations after their terms in office.they have everyone of us in this country where they want us to be and all they have to do is push a button and all hell will brake loose,be it students,unions,rightwings,leftwings,muslims and the youth of this country as we saw across the country the rioters,looters,thugs what ever you want to call them came from all the races in this our beloved eng-land.we we all need help with our prejudices and prides.amen

I have heard the father of one of the victims talking to the press appealing for people who were at the scene of the incident to come forward and give statements so that his late son can be proved innocent. What does this mean? Why are people who were there not giving statements? Why silence from the father who lost TWO SONS? The police say they are looking for "triple murderer" but simultaiously give statements that the case is "complicated". There is something very wrong with this picture. My own view is that a black man was attacked whilst in his car and attempted to escape a lynching. Time will tell. As someone wrote above one "revenge" lynching has already taken place. This is, in my view, what has been planned for black people after press started and continue to portray these riots as a criminal activity being perpetrated solely by black youth. Strange fruit ..again..

Dont refer to this as being an accident. It clearly isn't and the Afro-Carribbean community should know better having being victims of racism themselves. What your doing now is exactly what you complain that the White community/Police did in Tottenham

Further, there is a lot of jealousy of the fact that Asians have established businesses in handsworth, Lozells, Winson Green etc. In 2005 a baseless rumor was started to justify rioting and looting of Asian stores. No girl existed and no DNA was found in the store where the alleged rape occurred. The Afro-Carribbean community said the victim was an illegal immigrant and afraid she would get deported. The Police responded and said no such thing would occur and myself as an Immigration caseworker can state that children are usually given discretionary leave to remain. Again it was not enough to coax this "victim" out.

It was only when Asians responded to the looting and provocation directed towards them and two Afro-Carribbeans were killed did the madness stop

Asians are usuaully the victims of Black crimes in these areas as highlighted by the spate of Asian women being robbed of their purses an jewellry by Black men which have increased in recent times. A 40-year old lady named Rashida Ahmed was attacked by twelve stick wielding Jamaicans in Saltley during the riots but I suppose you will call that an accident too.

Then we had those poor lads run over for protecting their shops and businesses by cowards hiding in a vehicle.

When will you guys understand that the Asian community have established businesses through hard work. We dont receive government grants or handouts and most of us came here from poor countries with very little. If anything you guys have a head start on us a you already spoke English before you came and had English names whereas our parents did not have these advantages. We're sick and tired of your whining about youth not having a focus - you constantly point the finger but are not prepared to take responsibility for your actions, broken families, mental health, drug addiction, criminality and the plethora of problems you have created. Be accountable and realise your community needs to deal with the serious issues it has created. There are only so many times that Asians are going to be patient with this and tolerant of the old ladies in our community being robbed and our shops being looted.

Look how strong the victims father was and how he called for calm and re-iterated that race wasn't an issue - are any of the Black community trying to reign in their kids and find out why they are out all night and where there money is coming from.

Enough's enough and your race card argument is tired and exhausted now because your community are as guilty of racism as the rest

Black man murders 3 Asian men but I don't see Asian men rioting and looting about 'injustices' and 'Wanting answers now!"

It's a disgrace and an offence to the memory of the murder victim to call this an accident. When all the evidence suggests otherwise. In effect you're doing precisely what you accuse others of. Manipulating the facts to serve a your own political purpose. Just tell the truth and don't insult the intelligence of your readers.

they have just pulled a black man out of his car and murdered him in retaliation already!

Wed, 2011-08-10 20:31

And what would some sections of black society do? Stay in their houses and eat bun 'n cheese!

" THERE ARE fears that an accident n which three men died "

What a load of B*****KS!!!!!!
It was NOT an accident. Three Innocent Asian Men murdered by black people..

THE VOICE....... GET IT REAL ......GET IT BLOODY REAL!!!!!!!!

I'm ashamed to be British today

I'm very sorry and saddened by the death of these men. I hope that this incident does not become a racial issue because these riots are definitely not about race, but instead about class and the frustration of the disaffected. In no way is their behaviour justified, but I hope the families of the men killed, and the community from which they came don't view the incident from a racial standpoint.That will only make matters worse, and will make them almost as bad as those that killed them.

I wonder to what extent just the physical reality of urban living may partly be at root of all this violence and nihilism? So many inner city born and bred kids can never truly run off young energy naturally without being in a public space under the gaze of cctv. Even running off energy in organized sport has been badly restricted by the selling off of playing fields. Some parts of our big cities have nearly no green space. It's not natural to grow up surrounded by concrete and thousands of people. ..Just wondering how much of a factor..

IN RESPONSE TO WHAT THE POLICE CHIEF SAY WHAT DOES HE CALL THIEVES IN PARLIAMENT THEY RAELLY DO NOT NEED THE MONEY . THEY MORE THAN THESE POOR YIUTHS I GUARANTEE THAT VERYONE THEY ARREST IS POR SO WHO IS GREEDY HEAR ISUGGEST TO INTELLECTUAL PEOPLE TO LOOK PAST THIS AND SEE THE CORE OF WHAT IS REALY GOING ON IN OUR SOCIETY. LISTENING TO THE PRIME MINISTER REACTION ; HE WANTS TO BRING IN RUBBER BULLTEWS ETC. THOSE BULLETS KILL TOO BUT WHAT I WANT TO KNOW WITH SENTIMENYTS LIKE THAT WHAT ARE WE DOING IN LIBYA ? THE LIBYAN GOVERNMENT REACTED TO A ARMED UPRISING AND ARE NOW FIGHTING THE WEST AND THE REBELS. COULD YOU IMAGINE IF WE HAD A ARMED UPRISING IN BRITAIN WE WOULD HAVE PLACES LIKE TOTTENHAM BOMBED THEY WOULD WIPE US OF THE MAP LIKE WHAT THEY ARE DOING IN LIBYA

they have just pulled a black man out of his car and murdered him in retaliation already!

I have just seen a news clip on the Tonight programme on ITV from the riots in Manchester where the majority of rioters were white in the clip shown. Please, please, please, will The Voice be courageous enough to show the white rioters pictures on the front page to balance the reporting of the riots by the wider press. Whilst we all condemn the activities of those involved, we must not lose sight of the fact that some sectors will report the riots in such a way as suits their own agendas. It must be stressed somewhere in the media that this was not just black youths, despite the media's portrayal of events so far which has concentrated on and emphasised only the criminal activities of black youths.

I am certain that such a front page will have people buying the newspaper in droves and will re-balance the entire debate.

P. Ashley (author of "Angry People Smiling")

My respects and heart go out to the families of these younog men who died whilst protecting their community and who were on the streets showing that there is positivity amongst the young people in our society.
Also it goes to show that it does not matter what cultural/religious background you come from you can still contribute to the society that we all have to live in.
THE FERAL RATS WHO HAVE BEEN RULING OUR STREETS FOR THE LAST FEW NIGHTS NEED TO BE DEALT WITH IN THE SAME WAY AS WE WOULD WITH ANY KIND OF TOXIC BREAKOUT---DESTROY IT> IT IS NOT NORMAL+ DISENFRANCHISEMENT DIDN"T START THIS, IT IS MORONS WHO SHOULD KNOW BETTER.

Also it goes to show that all the hatemongers who say that we as a society should be scared of religious terrorists maybe should be more inclined to take a page from their books because it seems to me that these people are the communities who are on the streets protecting their communities instead of burning them!!!!
RESPECT TO YOUR FAMILIES AND COMMUNITY-THANK YOU FOR SHOWING THE REST OF THE COUNTRY THAT THE LEGACY THAT YOUR SONS LEAVE IS NOT ONE OF VIOLENCE BUT ONE OF CARE+LOVE OF THEIR COMMUNITY.
IT IS A SHAME THAT THE FAMILY OF THE MAN WHO HAS ALLEDGELY BEEN THE MOTIVATION FOR THE MAYHEM THAT HAS BURNED THROUGH OUR COUNTRY HAVE NOT FOLLOWED THE EXAMPLE OF HAROONS' FATHER IN ASKING FOR PEACE AND CALM.

Why is it that every other news agency is calling the incident a murder, but you are calling it an 'accident'? This is simply not true, the police have launched a murder inquiry which wouldn't have been done for an 'accident'. Please stop spreading mis-information. Otherwise you will have black people thinking that the boys in the car were doing nothing wrong, when they clearly were

It wasn't an accident, there is no suggestion from the facts that it was an accident. The police are treating the incident as murder. Get your facts right.

That's tragic r.i.p

"An ACCIDENT"? Are you serious?