There are mixed views on the forum; all valid though.

There are some very basic truths in this debate that people seem to have got entirely wrong or mixed up.

1. The website with mugshots where the Police are looking for those involved in the rioting is 90% black or mixed race (or other races non-caucasion) - go look at it yourselves - this is indisputable and anyone who says (as I have seen written here) that rioting was 50/50 is in total denial.
2. The black community cannot continue with a self-fulfilling prophetic approach to racism based around victimization. If this were true then we would not have so many consultants and pharmacists and shop and company owners who are Asian. Protestant ethic (you will work hard and become someone) is a messaging that begins at home (culturally denoted). Blacks arrived in the 50s and Asians arrived (largely) in the 70s, yet they now outstrip blacks in virtually every achievement index. This cannot all be about institutional racism.
3. I live in Brixton and I hear what young people are speaking. I have read comments on here that "people in Jamaica do not talk like that" - please note the following phrases/words:
"Blood" (derivation of "blood/bamba clot" - obscene reference to menstruation - used colloquially in Jamaica)
"Are you aksing me?" (switching round the "s" and "k" in the gerund form of the verb - also found in Jamaica.
"Raaight" (elongated vowel sound rather than the British linguistic short form "i" {eye} - also common phoneme in Jamaica).
I think Ali G pretty much sums up what has happened and he is sadly a pastiche-come-true.
I have heard young white British children use these words, who have no cultural or linguistic connection with the Caribbean. To say that they have not picked this up from black friends is absurd. Would you employ someone in your Customer Services Group who spoke like that?? Probably not and nor would I. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a Caribbean accent as long as it does not sound like an idiot. When I hear Trevor McDonald I know that he is a black man, but moreso that he has a brain and wants to project an intelligent voice and demeanor. There was a white family over the road from my house whose son (growing up in Brixton) was talking in this patois-style voice and the rest of his family would laugh at him when he visited them in Oxford. They thought he was trying to imitate Ali G; not realizing this was actually his voice (and he was not black). I feel very sorry that Lammy has been lambasted for having a British accent. We are all the product of where we grow up. I certainly would not judge Craig Charles (Coronation St) any differently than as a scouser and I certainly don't think it is necessary (as some have commented here) that he should "sound black". In my opinion he should sound like he comes from Liverpool and nothing else.
Don't even get me started on Darcus Howe - he is putting the black cause back five years every time he gets airtime.

David starkey is right to a point some of the rap music is very violent,but is probably no more violent that heavy metal music that is also listened to, i don't like the way american rap music have influenced our young people the constant use of the n-word where young people think it is cool to us, in america black people call each other the n-word every day, do they know the meaning of the word, did they watch the movie coach carter? when samuel L jackson explained the use of the n-word! the vine did a peace on the n-word in 2008 look for the author it was a brilliant peace that came right to the point, remember what you pump into your brain i.e. music often comes through, he was way out of order in what he said though, next he will be saying that blacks are homophobic! but this is like it has been said what many have been thinking for a long time.

Dreda 'nothing to say' Mitchelle. ...what a waste!

After reading these comments I would like to confirm that on Twitter Mr Starkey has been taken to task for his inappropriate remarks.

Look people are people what they fear most is uncertainty, but they are not stupid. They fortunately see that the riots overall was not about race. But you will always get the simplistic answers to complex issues.

As for Mr Starkey he is rich, so he can say whatever he likes, whether polite society ostracizes him remains to be seen, but his views are rooted in victorian notion of upper class privilege, which has now been co-opted by the little englander who even though they understand their history, have a tendency to spin towards their innate superiority.

This is not about race this is about class and if you divide us into labels we become them.

Please accept my apologies for posting my comment more than once. I thought something had gone wrong with submitting my comment, when in fact it took the moderators incredibly longer than usual to approve the post.

After listening to the interview I thought it was full of incredibly ignorant minded nonsense. David started by making references to “black culture” as being “a particular sort of violent, destructive, nihilistic, gangster culture”, that was the cause of the riots. He also stated that whites/chavs were involved in the riots because they had become “black”.

How can you not think that such sweeping generalisations wouldn’t be seen as insulting?

The Chavs rioted because they’re “Chavs”, they don’t need any further excuses such as a perceived blackness.

The black community consists of people whose ethnic origins are from an almost endless list of African and Caribbean countries such as Nigeria, Ghana, Zimbabwe, Kenya, Somalia, Jamaica, Barbados, Trinidad and Tobago, Guyana, Grenada, Saint Lucia, Montserrat, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Dominica, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Antigua and Barbuda.

All these countries have they’re own distinct cultures which should not simply be reduced to gangsterism.

David then rambles on about a number of irrelevant points. One of which is Jamaican patois. The UK has always had its own unique brand of urban street language/slang, which now has Jamaican influences but is definitely not identical to Jamaican patois. Folks in Jamaica don't say phrases such as "innit" or "ya get me". Such speak is a sign of bad education not necessarily criminality. Mr Starkey then blathers on about Labour MP David Lammy sounding “white”. The Labour MP simply sounds like a well educated individual that any highly educated person of any race would sound like, which once again this has nothing to do with the riots.

Many have argued that he was not generalisng and that he was referring to a sub-culture or aspect of black culture, but since he did not state this, people will believe he is generalising. Towards the end of the interview, after he had been accused of insulting generalisations, he toned down his rhetoric and said it was a “particular type” of black culture. But by then it was all too late, the damage had been done.

Think before you speak!

Dreda Say Mitchelle gave comment in the Guardian newspaper ....must say...not very well written at all but it will have to do won't it. She says someone was wondering why she didn't get annoyed... emmm what I actually said was " You were utterly useless! Don't get me wrong no one was expecting you to breakout in some Jamaican patois and tell him bout him b*** BUT Where the hell are your balls? Don't tell us you were stunned! Don't let anyone intimated you when standing up for your rights let alone some stupid old man. You should be ashamed of yourself you let yourself down, Owen Jones had to jump in to save it.

You shouldn't hog a valuable platform like this if essentially you haven't got anything to say. And you haven't. You say 'Mercifully the response to Starkey's remarks was overwhelmingly negative.' God I could cringe... what are you talking about? Who are you speaking for? Who is your audience? You say 'I've been bombarded with emails and tweets from across the globe, 99% of which found him either ludicrous or comical.' OBVIOUSLY they were writing to you! I'm pretty sure David Starkey had the same amount of support don't delude your self and focus on the task at hand. You didn't spend no where near enough time or thought writing this article. It was such an important issue. This is where you could have redeemed yourself for letting him walk all over you and everyone that cares about this country. Nevertheless thank you. It begs the question if you weren't there who would have been. Sorry to be harsh but some times you have to be cruel to be kind. If you are going to represent. Shape up! This job is not for the faint hearted.

LETTER TO DAVID STARKEY
You need to apologise that's if you have a conscience. You were war mongering and you should know better. Racism has affected the life of every black person that lives in this country in absolutely every way. This is the racism that you defend and promote. The bible tells you to take the plank out of your own eye before you take the speck out of others. If your took that plank out of yours you would see the truth. This British society does nothing to stop the violence on TV. It glorifies gangster films like Lock stock and barrel. It has given up on trying to rid our televising of horror films depicting scenes of violence of the sickest kind. This is normal to white culture, If I may use your way of thinking. Pornography is allowed to sit there on the shelf of the local news agents where our children go to buy sweets. You don't care. I or you may not like raps song which are glorify violence but you were deliberately racist and deliberately blinkered to the culture of your white society for it's fetish for this kind of music, for the mafia gangsta films for violent action movies. This country history is one that went to rape and pillage Africa and Africans. It took generation to try and pick up the pieces of those atrocities for us Africans you called niggers negroes and now black. Black people today after generations of racism in their family's still face it today, sometimes it's quite sophisticated, some times it totally blatant but it retarted and damaging. No black person has been left unaffected. You are completely insensitive to that. This country's history destroyed any hope of Africans speaking their own language in Jamaica. If some British people know a few words in Jamaican you need to just get over it don't you? Just like we did.

Jamaicans have come along way from colonial days. African Jamaicans have come a long long way despite having a staring point in life from a completely utterly broken and destroyed family thanks to your England. It was racists like you that said we were ugly. You people told us we stupid. Now you can see us present in every field from professors, to doctors, solicitors, politcians to supermodels. We are extremely tenacious. Oh yeah... We will not tolerate your racist ideas. The text you read out and attributed to Jamaican patios bears no resemblance to Jamaican patois and you need to apologise for that. You are so in denial and far removed from reality that you can't even realise that INNIT is from your own British cockney slang. People love the few Jamaica words they learnt. It's cool and they love the reggae music that came with it. Just get over it. We still have a long way to go, and it's the racist mentality like yours that wants to scape goat us Jamaicans for your problems today and still hold us back. Just who the hell are your trying to kid? The typical British white male has a reputation in the rest of Europe for being a complete and utter thug. Look on any holiday review and listen to what they are saying about this white British male you are so deulded about. French, Spanish, Germans, Greeks are all sick of the British man totally thuggish drunken behaviour. You want the black man to take them blame for your white boy's behaviour. Your racism is pure evil.

Despite the horrid history so many thousand of whites and blacks have tried to get along. Incredibly it's been a great success, England has the highest mixed race population in Europe thanks to Jamaicans. The fact that we are desirable by white British people is still very hard to digest for the racist. Just get over it. Despite all odds people began to give up on this notion of separateness that destroys and eats away at humanity. Men and women don't even care about the colour of their partner because of course at the end of the day it just does simply not matter! But here you are warmongering. You need to apologise, but not just to black people and black people of Jamaican origin but to everyone that was deeply hurt and effected by what you said and did. You are old now and out of touch but a lot people just want to get on with each other. A lot of young people don't see and understand colour the way you do. Do you remember when Mrs Walker a black woman who had a son that was murdered by being axed in the head? She told the media that she did not wish revenge she just hope God would forgive the white racist boy that did it. She wasn't being sarcastic. She was sincere. She didn't go on TV and say this is because of white culture and all the thugs and hooligans that watch films like Sopranos and God father and lock stock and Barrel. She cared about this society she had strong morals and values. The racism she faced was of the worst kind. I personally am sick of the racism I've had to face in my life but so far no one has axed me or my children in the head. I would like to keep it that way. I try to keep in mind it is from a minority of ignorant haters like you. But your actions have shown me that a lot of people think just like you about people just like me. Two wrongs don't make a right and you need to know that. If you have a conscience I suggest you apologise to everyone and do it quickly.

After listening to the interview I thought it was full of incredibly ignorant minded nonsense. David started by making references to “black culture” as being “a particular sort of violent, destructive, nihilistic, gangster culture”, that was the cause of the riots. He also stated that whites/chavs were involved in the riots because they had become “black”.

How can you not think that such sweeping generalisations wouldn’t be seen as insulting?

The Chavs rioted because they’re “Chavs”, they don’t need any further excuses such as a perceived blackness.

The black community consists of people whose ethnic origins are from an almost endless list of African and Caribbean countries such as Nigeria, Ghana, Zimbabwe, Kenya, Somalia, Jamaica, Barbados, Trinidad and Tobago, Guyana, Grenada, Saint Lucia, Montserrat, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Dominica, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Antigua and Barbuda.

All these countries have they’re own distinct cultures which should not simply be reduced to gangsterism.

David then rambles on about a number of irrelevant points. One of which is Jamaican patois. The UK has always had its own unique brand of urban street language/slang, which now has Jamaican influences but is definitely not identical to Jamaican patois. Folks in Jamaica do not say “innit” or “ya get me”. Such speak is a sign of bad education not necessarily criminality. Mr Starkey then blathers on about Labour MP David Lammy sounding “white”. The Labour MP simply sounds like a well educated individual that any highly educated person of any race would sound like, which once again this has nothing to do with the riots.

Many have argued that he was not generalisng and that he was referring to a sub-culture or aspect of black culture, but since he did not state this, people will believe he is generalising. Towards the end of the interview, after he had been accused of insulting generalisations, he toned down his rhetoric and said it was a “particular type” of black culture. But by then it was all too late, the damage had been done.

Think before you speak!

After listening to the interview I thought it was full of incredibly ignorant minded nonsense. David started by making references to “black culture” as being “a particular sort of violent, destructive, nihilistic, gangster culture”, that was the cause of the riots. He also stated that whites/chavs were involved in the riots because they had become “black”.

How can you not think that such sweeping generalisations wouldn’t be seen as insulting?

The Chavs rioted because they’re “Chavs”, they don’t need any further excuses such as a perceived blackness.

The black community consists of people whose ethnic origins are from an almost endless list of African and Caribbean countries such as Nigeria, Ghana, Zimbabwe, Kenya, Somalia, Jamaica, Barbados, Trinidad and Tobago, Guyana, Grenada, Saint Lucia, Montserrat, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Dominica, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Antigua and Barbuda.

All these countries have they’re own distinct cultures which should not simply be reduced to gangsterism.

David then rambles on about a number of irrelevant points. One of which is Jamaican patois. The UK has always had its own unique brand of urban street language/slang, which now has some Jamaican influences but is definitely not identical to Jamaican patois. Such speak is a sign of bad education not necessarily criminality. Mr Starkey then blathers on about Labour MP David Lammy sounding “white”. The Labour MP simply sounds like a well educated individual that any highly educated person of any race would sound like, which once again this has nothing to do with the riots.

Many have argued that he was not generalisng and that he was referring to a sub-culture or aspect of black culture, but since he did not state this, people will believe he is generalising. Towards the end of the interview, after he had been accused of insulting generalisations, he toned down his rhetoric and said it was a “particular type” of black culture. But by then it was all too late, the damage had been done.

Think before you speak!

A Historian says what, ‘black culture turned whites into looters' evidently I must be more of a historian, than the 2 week old modern historian fool.

Try turning that around, you 2 week old minded ape (Darwins theory).

One can plainly remember, the effing white teachers, telling poor blacks at school, that the whites invaded Africa. Not only was Africa looted, don't forget plundered, try throwing in robbed too, want to add a few more..

As a side joke. Ask the Queen where some of those massive rocks in her crown came from.

The historian and Dr James Watson, the Nobel prize-winning scientist who said that black Africans are not as intelligent as whites, has a significant amount of African DNA in his own genome. So bang went his thoery. They so are alike. So intelligent and retarded at the same time.

The professor is partially right. MULTICULTURALISM HAS CLEARLY FAILED BECAUSE OF BLOCK-HEADS WHO HAVE NO INTEREST IN GETTING AN EDUCATION n then they're surprised when they can't get a job. LOL! Pathetic!

Well that's a new one on me then! I'd no idea that the Black minority of the UK population had such an influence on the behaviour and morals of the White majority. I think his comments were misguided and for someone who is supposed to be well educated, he really didn't explain what he meant without it sounding offensive as it did in the programme. He came across as someone so out of touch with the real world especially his comment about David Lammy's accent - a totally cringe worthy moment! I actually felt quite sorry for him.

Someone mentioned the behaviour of white British people whilst on holiday in the Mediterranean. You are correct about how some of them behave but this is not covered up by other white British people who do not behave in this way, in fact it is openly deplored and often spoken about and no-one would rush to defend their behaviour.

Someone mentioned in their comments about bringing Darcus Howe back on the BBC. People like Darcus Howe and Lee Jaspar are part of the problem. The night before the BBC interview where the interviewer asked him about his involvement in riots he was on Newsnight with Edwina Currie. He dismissed the criminal damage and arson of business premises as well as homes by waving his hands scornfully and saying 'well the insurance will take care of that.' Anyone who can be that blase about that level of damage never mind that people were very lucky to escape with their lives from those buildings should not be on our tv screens representing the 'black' community.

I just found this article from america. I would like to know what others think. Is this rubbish or true. Is this crime genetically based in black males as it says?

http://cofcc.org/2010/05/science-daily-whites-have-lowest-instance-of-ma...

He makes a good point. Lets look at culture differences here. There was a major distaster with the nuclear power plant in Japan. But did we see the Japanese looting or stealing?? Did we see them creating mayhem and disorder?? No. They Pulled together in an orderly fashion.

Now lets look at the disaster in new orleans. The floods. We saw black people looting,stealing clothes and liquor and televisions from their own community. We saw disorder similar to the disorder seen recently in London. This behaviour seems to be endemic to black people,sorry to say this but what do you think? Does anyone want to be honest here and say yes we is naughty peeps?

David Starkey chooses to elaborate on the Black Culture, as the reason for these riots.

He states that whites have been acting black to the extent that they have become Jamaicanised!

Mr Duggan, was of mix race. A white mother and black father, but this protest according to David Starkey was a black protest.

Assuming that white people in the community have embraced a black culture, is not a bad thing, when we speak of culture, this can relate to traditions, customs, religion, music and food as an influence from sub culture to mainstream culture.

A typical example, would be the replacement of fish and chips, for an Indian curry, as the national dish.

The point I'm making, is that while the community's have embraced one another's traditions, the police have still not learnt from the past riots, which took place 30 years ago in Tottenham, 6 years before Mark Duggan was born.

Remember, that hate kills, love heals! Their is as much hate within the police force as their is within the same community in which they are responsible for serving and protecting.

Before we can even dream of having better relationships with the police, they seriously have to look back in the past 30 years of rioting, and take note, nothing has changed in the manner in which they police black issues within the community. This is the root of the problems.

I think this is the kind of thing he was getting at:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxSjshIBNh4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxSjshIBNh4

@ Anonymous 1: thank u! While Starkey is clearly barking, we cannot deny that as a community we need to look inwards and ask some difficult questions. i fear to say we have failed our children by allowing them to accept this mediocrity that is pervasive across the UK.

David Starkey is misinformed and did not do his research before making his comment on News Night. First of all the language spoken on the street are mostly Amercian in nature. The word "gansta" in American in nature, the wearing of low riding jeans and the glorification of guns are mostly American led. What Jamaicans offer to this society is thier proud, no nonsensse, fiesty attitude that most English people tried to capture. Jamaica is an island of 2.1 million people with reknown people in academics, arts ands sport. If David Starky felt that the Jamicaca patois or people had change England then I saw something is faundementally wrong in England. How can such a small country hardly visible on the world map, change the powerful England. What is he he doing to change it back. We all know that every black people in England is Jamaican, it does not not matter what country you come from, and now if you are white you are also Jamaican There is a saying in Jamaica,"We little but we talawah" Well done Jamaica, use you influence possitively and you cam change the entire world.

I don't have a problem with what Starkey has said, I am certain he was talking about a so called 'gangsta' culture which I personally do not recognise as a Jamaican or Carribean one. Im not sure why the BBC chose to have a medieval historian talk about the troubles, but in Starkeys cack handed way delivered the controversal goods
This whole 'you get me' 'blud' and other such drivel is a dialect I have never heard in the Carribean, yet someone it is associated with the Carribean what a joke! Another poster mention the vitriol directed against us online, its true but 2 weeks ago it was Muslims until something else happens. Another poster spoke of children out if wedlock, yes I agree where once it was not the norm now it is yet we ignore or tolerate this in the community

The BBC allowed a racist historian to air his bigoted and narrow minded views within a public forum (this coming on the back of the Darcus Howe “you are a rioter” fiasco). I am a Black British woman who has studied Law at a top 5 UK institution, yet, Starkey referred to Black culture in totality as having a nefarious impact on white society. Well I cannot recall going out to loot my corner shop after finishing my final exams.
Black culture is disparate. There is no such uniform entity. He is suggesting that Nigerian, Jamaican, Antigua, Trinidadian, Cuban, Barbadian, Trinidadian, Zimbabwean culture is the same as we are all black. For goodness sake we do not even eat the same food let along share the same cultural traditions. His suggestion is also that since we are all black, we are all prone to rioting, crime activites,speaking patois and subverting impressionable white youth. Ridiculous and offensive to the extreme. Black culture was not responsible for the riots, it was a subculture unique to dispossessed urban youths that was responsible for the riots.
He has cast a shadow over the entire black community and contributed to the racism which is now being levelled against my community particularly online. He stoke the fires and his comments were like an incediary device and I personally know of many black people who are presently scared for their safety. I am black as I stated earlier and no one that I know speaks patois or listens to gangster rap. This is a fallacy and a dangerous one. He has sterotyped an entire community and contributed to the belief that black people are no good and good for nothing.
Thank you David Starkey!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IfV0Av6QYw

Unfortunately as a community we (as black people) have refined the art of self-denial. We have so excused and glorified failure to the point where recent events should never have come as a surprise to anyone. We have,over the last 4 to 5 decades:
1. Migrated to the UK, as a people who knew who they were and were prepared to work hard and contribute to the society but; paradoxically, raised children, into whom we have failed to inculcate those very same values of practical ambition and hard work, because of the embarrasingly desperate desire to make them 'English' children.
2. Raised a generation that achieved lower success than the previous generation, such that in simple sequential terms, the 1st generation achieved a 'D', the next one an 'E' and,now we have a generation that is a fully fledged 'F' generation.
3. Replaced a deep and proud sense of self with a shallow, dim-witted caricature that defines self-worth not by how good their grades are, but how much 'branding' is on their backs.
4. Forgotten the basics of morality. Having children out of wedlock is now the norm and you have a generation of dead beat fathers who hide while the public take on the burden of raising their children and even worse, dead weight mothers who bring these children into the world and raise them as wards of the state. So mummy and daddy are parasites, would the children know better?

I think we have far more greatness in us a people but until we are honest with ourselves, one person at a time, and accept that we need to strive in every area of human endeavour (we have enough sports and music people already) we will never achieve that greatness. And every other ethnic group will continue to feel justified in regarding us as little better than a joke.

POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK!

Some of the Greek islands – I’m thinking in particular of Zakinthos, but there are certainly others – are seriously plagued during the summer months by hordes of drunken and violent British youths, about 90 percent of them white. They drink themselves insensate, fornicate publicly in the streets, fight each other and sometimes assault passers-by, scream foul language at everyone in sight, and vomit and defecate everywhere. This type of behaviour doesn’t seem to have been copied from black culture – not so far as one can see, anyway – and it’s not an expression of poverty, judging by the number of vodka bottles that are downed every night.

Like it or loathe it (and I personally loathe it), and admit it or not, what I’m referring to is part and parcel of contemporary British culture – in fact in some parts of the continent, this is what Britain is best known for these days. It’s a part of British culture that in my opinion owes nothing to the blacks, and its existence seems to me to suggest something much deeper than the allegedly sinister effects of “multiculturism”. Perhaps it would be better to do something about it, before the blacks start learning from the young white English visitors who every summer are doing their best to make life hell for everyone in the more popular of the holiday resorts of the Mediterranean.

If David Starkey was a real historian he would have an understanding of african/caribbean culture and he would know the vast contributions we have made to the world, which is vastly documented in history. He would also know that patios is a mix of several languages with English or French many of these lanuguaes are ofcourse West African and not 'false' at all. I would ask Mr Starkey the origin of the language he speaks and the location of the English written form which does not even exist. All languages are made up may I remind him. Beware of false prophets!

This article from the Jamaican Gleaner is worth reading to put into perspective the shooting of Mark Duggan who it seems was carrying a gun which can still be fired from a sock by the way.If the riots had happened there have no doubt that there would be a lot more people dead on the streets.

http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20110814/cleisure/cleisure1.html

I think that Dreda Say Mitchell was shocked by what David Starkey said and also on some level probably agreed with him. I have to admit that on watching Newsnight at the time I dismissed what he said about black culture which is a misnomer as we are many nationalities but understood what he was trying to say about the yardie gangsta badman attitude which is destructive to our black communities. I think that he overstated the influence that it has on other racial groups although some young people from those other groups do think that it is cool to emulate.

It is probably the case that he has little interaction with any black person and like many is all too aware of the black on black gun/knife crime and high street crime statistics. Yes, I know that white people commit a lot of crime too but we are just over 10% of the population in London and less nationwide and the figures are disproportionately high. I strongly agree with the person who made the comment about ensuring that we focus on ensuring that our young men and women do not fall prey to the gangsta mentality and accompanying gang culture as it is highly destructive to our communities.

I would like to deal particularly with the comments made by David Starkey and on here by some about David Lammy's accent and the statements made that he sounds 'white'. David Lammy was born in this country in Tottenham and to my ears he sounds English. Why shouldn't he sound English? If you were born in this country black, asian or white why shouldn't you have an English accent. I was born here too and this accusation of sounding white has been thrown at me in a derogatory way and I believe that this is part of the problem as it is seen as somehow wrong to have a well spoken English accent even if you were born here. My grandparents came here from Jamaica in 1960 and my mother was 7 years old, my uncles were teenagers at the time. There are some young people who were born in this country who sound more Jamaican than my uncles despite never having set foot in the country.

David Starkey now wishes to be known as David Nazi

starkey has a point. Why can't these looters be intelligent, young, friendly people.

This man should never been aloud to came on tv and radio to say this kind of comment remainder hitler started this same way and end up bringing 1 and 2 world war. And I will had that ignore is a curse and deadly ........

HITLER WAS ALSO TRYING TO ACT BLACK ASWELL

DAVID STARKEY IS OUT OF TOUCH AND NAIVE-thats my viewpoint, how on earth can an intelligent man come on National TV and on prime time and make such statements, personality is not down to race but individuality-if white kids listen to black music and supposedly act black thats a slight minority, the same could be said for South Asian and Oriental kids and if there are Black kids that are well spoken bookworms it doesnt mean that they have a desire to become white.
In 2011 its a disgraceful state of affairs that ignorant poeple like this man still walk about and openly believe in this rhetoric.
If attitudes like this are not challenged , its in our (black people) peril as we will have the next generation developing self hate issues and inferiority complex-Thanks to David Starkey ,shops may see skyrocket sales of skin bleaching creams.

silly tw*t.. he should get some sense slapped into him