POSTER CHILD: Jessie J
AS A writer for the The Voice, I know all too well the challenges of working for an organisation that aims to serve the black community.
Every so often, we have to remind ourselves of the old adage, ‘you can’t please all the people all the time’, as disgruntled readers vent about what they feel we got wrong or what we don’t do enough of.
I get it. As Britain’s only black newspaper, many in the black community look to us to be all things for all black people, just as they looked to the short-lived black sitcom The Crouches to represent every black family in Britain.
But the bottom line is, it’s a ridiculous and unrealistic expectation. And with this in mind, I’m always hesitant to criticize any organisation that aims to celebrate or recognise black talent or culture, because I know how it feels when it’s done to us – especially when it’s done by one of ‘us’.
Nevertheless, I couldn’t escape the feeling of bemusement when the first details about this year’s MOBO (Music of Black Origin) Awards began to emerge. The theme for the 2011 ceremony is ‘Ladies rule at this year’s MOBO Awards’, while additional information read: ‘Jessie J, Katy B and Alexis Jordan revealed for the MOBO Awards’.

PERFORMING: Katy B
As I read those details to a friend, her reply mirrored my thoughts exactly: “MOBO is really leaning on the ‘origin’ part of their name, aren’t they?”
Just as I had, my friend also picked up on the fact that two of the event’s leading ladies this year – Jessie J and Katy B – are white singers, whose music is considered to be of black ‘origin’.
Technically, there’s no big deal here. Both artists make the music that MOBO aims to celebrate. As MOBO founder Kanya King told The Voice back in 2008, the event had always been “inclusive” of all artists that make music of black origin and “whether the artists are black or white is irrelevant.”
With previous performers at the annual music ceremony including US soul singer Robin Thicke, and award winners including British acts Plan B, Professor Green and the late Amy Winehouse, white artists are no new phenomenon to the MOBO stage. The event receiving criticism for giving too many nods to white artists is also no new thing.
But upon reading those early details about this year’s event, I did wonder if such critics had a point. By all means include white artists in the ceremony. After all, there are plenty of them that make black music and do it very well. But why use two white artists as the flag bearers for this year’s event?

FOUNDER: Kanya King
A few weeks back, The Voice carried an article that examined whether the music industry considers white soul artists more marketable to the British mainstream audience than their black counterparts. And in general, the notion that white singers have an easier time finding success than black singers is nothing new.
So perhaps using white artists to lure in the mainstream masses is a good thing, thereby creating a larger audience for the black music scene that MOBO seeks to promote – and greater exposure (and ticket sales) for the event itself. After all, this is business.
In her aforementioned Voice interview, King also challenged the paper, saying: “The Voice is there to represent the black community, but that doesn’t mean you don’t want white readers to buy and read the paper.”
Indeed, she’s right. The Voice has never claimed to be exclusively for black readers. And yes, we do occasionally profile white artists that we feel are relevant within the black community.
But isn’t there an argument that a platform like MOBO – much like The Voice – should mostly strive to promote black talent? After all, if we started putting white stars on our cover week after week, it would be fair to say we’d lost the whole point of what we’re set up to do.
Last year, Simon Frith, the chair of the Mercury Prize said he believed that black British female artists are being ignored by the British public. "Black female music has always had a particularly tough time,” Frith said.

BETTER REP?: Estelle
How can we expect this to change if organisations that are specifically set up to celebrate black culture use white talents as the representatives for our scene? It would be like a black fashion expert complaining about the lack of black models in the fashion industry, setting up an organisation to address that balance, and then using white models to advertise what they do!
Songstress Jessie J has received plenty of recognition and column inches within the mainstream media. Does she really need extra hype from MOBO when the organisation could have picked – for example – Alexandra Burke, Beverley Knight or Estelle to front the event?
Don’t get me wrong: I certainly don’t subscribe to the thinking that black people should always ‘help their own’, regardless of whether those seeking help deserve it or not. But if organisations like MOBO – and The Voice – that seek to promote black culture, choose to push white talents over black, can we really expect any more from the mainstream?
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CommentsThe mobos sucked from day
The mobos sucked from day one..Any award show based on black music that doesnt give "earth,wind and fire" a lifetime achievement award deserves to die..ANYWAY KIDS STOP MAKING CHAVVY BEATS AND PICK UP A MUSICAL INSTRUMENT... LISTEN TO CAMEO,PATRICE RUSHEN,INCOGNITO AND EARTH,WIND AND FIRE....THEN BRING BACK FUNK!!!!!!!!!!!!
The mobo award
Im a dj musician & id like to expand on this article..
I think the issue is that many of can recall when we had or started our own radio stations to promote our own undiluted music in conjunction with house parties & sound systems..
I thought the mobo was a continuation of this process of self promotion..But its seems like the mobo is just the industry patting itself on the back..
I would prefer to highlight the disparity between talent & careers in the uk .
Theirs an unfair disparity between who makes the most gains from music of black origin.
It's generally a white person or band at the top of the totem pole & the musical output is usually diluted or cloned....The innovative black acts & founders normally have a restricted range..
look at the white uk acts who have lengthy careers or immediate success & compare them to blacks.It's not a level field & they are not innovative..
Eg..
The artists / intact groups with 20 plus yrs longevity would be Eddie grant. Billy ocean ,Gabrielle, Joan armatrading.Sade. Aswad.Courtney pine.
I may have missed some but its still not a big list.
The most recent consistent acts would be Graig david,Leona lewis,Lemarr, Alex burke, Dizzy rascal & possibly ..Jamalia ,Beverly knight Corinne Bailey Rae.
compare that with the 20 plus year careers of say .
eg..Jamiriquai, Simply red, Lisa stansfield,Ub40,The police,Madness,Eric clapton,Led zeppelin. Coldcut,David bowie,Bwoy george ...
The recent Adele, Duffy, Amy,Joss stone etcs also have black producers etc behind the scene & are pushed as soul.But If their sales are low they can simply switch..
Black artists success or longevity is usually sustained by diluting their output & compromising their identity.. so low sales = end of contract..
Conclusion..
A white person performing black music has an adavantage, more range & markets because the industry allows these acts the option to flirt with black music.
They are entitled to their rewards & accolades. But I would appreciate it if they were to speak up about these things.
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the mowos
I think Jesse j winning mobos are a disgrace its just cheasy pop music rebranded as r&b its got nothing to do with black or white I've watched the mobos since its started and it gets worse every year I think most of the performances are mimed now its certainly lost a lot of cred and probably aimed more at 9-18 year old white girls
Double Standards
What chance of a white person winning a music award in a black country. Fat chance. Is that also racism.
What about blacks winning awards in the rock,pop,classical,folk music industries. Are we tell them they cannot because they are black.
Finally don't forget that Britain is a predominately white country and not a black country. If you are so absorbed wih race then why not go and live in Jamaica or Nigeria.
mobos is a joke.
and it always has been if we are honest. always too fixated on getting pop audiences interested which has meant they never really do a good job of celebrating black music that is outside the mainstream. just look at their categories - they change every year! they barely cover the spectrum of black music that there is. its like a black music ceremony made up by people who work at a pop or rock magazine. any show that has adele in the gospel category needs to take a long hard look at itself - i like her dont get me wrong, shes good, but thats just bizarre. the people behind the mobos dont seem to know about black music, so how can they show the diversity of black music that there is. even taking into account that black music in 2011 is incredibly 'white' and basically just pop on most levels (which is a problem for another article to address), this is why it will remain a sad failure. you cant have a black music award ceremony that is only interested in what listeners of radio 1 know. it is an automatic conflict.
Jessie J is Best New Artist
Jessie J rocks ALL genres well. I am a proud American black person and I am rooting for Jessie J to get all five MOBO's. Can I play Jessie J music at a Blacks attended party??? Yes ....I can.
Jessie J rocks ALL genres
Jessie J rocks ALL genres well. I am a proud American black person and I am rooting for Jessie J to get all five MOBO's. Can I play Jessie J music at a Blacks attended party??? Yes ....I can.
@Thu, 2011-09-01 03:42
You are a very proud American who happens to have a very vibrant black music industry in the US and suspect you really don't have any idea about the black or lack-of a decent black music scene in the UK and you probably could play Jessie J at a blacks attended party in the US! The likes of Jessie J, who I really don't rate is a very watered down and poor imitation of any representation of Black music (well she did hold her crotch in her first video oh and sang "man dem" so does that qualify her?) and also had the right connections. Katy B was underground artist who became famous through word of mouth and some decent music who I respect a lot more and I feel is more deserving of an award.
The MOBOS have become a joke, we can't even get a prime time TV slot and they have basically sold out the young, aspiring and very talented Black UK music industry sucking up to sponsors to survive and that's a terrible shame. I stopped watching it a long time ago and I won't be watching it this year either I doubt I'll be missing much tbh!
MOBO
WHY ARE WE HATING ON OURSELVES?
MOBOs: all white on the night?
I agree blacks should have been included in the showcase by MOBO. Perhaps they were merely trying to embrace their white counterparts who happen to be the current charttoppers, but over did it. I can't be sure. I am sure it needs to be addressed. How can MOBO disrespect the black artistes that have contributed so much over the years and count on MOBO for optimum recognition for their musical contribution to now be showcased as has beens to whites in these affairs? Why couldn't there be a creative approach to higlighting and promoting the event to include black and white artistes in the headliner?
mobo
in a way its how you look at it really. MUSIC OF BLACK ORIGIN literally meaning music that came from black people. katy b and wotsa name qualify, they do music taken from black people, they,ve done no wrong. What i disagree with is using them as highlights when other successful black artists could have been used.
MOBOS
MOBOS losts is identity...could not push a reggae artist? Afro Beats musician...funky house..its ridiculous
Mobos
As an organiser of annual events in the past I just look and think......wow Kanya14 years and still going .... Hats off!Great achievement.
I'm not saying there are no casualties but in any battle there is always casualties .
Black Music in this country as I have seen it has been a battle - when I first started it was standard for a label to say - "We don't do black videos-TV won't play them-so there no point in paying for them" and what's more that was accepted ! We were part of a wave of performers in the Soul 2 soul era that broke that way of thinking. Amongst mid level record deals- so Kanya is one of the generals.People don't always like Generals some generals deserve the dislike others are just leaders who have persevered through governments and kings and queens to be given the same task.
"Help us win" is the task and Black music / Music of Black origin /Urban music - in this country needs more generals.It has many aliases because its a creative and like water running down a hill WILL find its way -onto airwaves TV stations /into schools /passed along as MP3's/ripped downloads/break dance classes every sunday/in adverts for lucozade/adverts for Cars/Music in film. In America it was called Black chart then Rhythm and Blues then Jazz the Be bop then R and B then Rap Hip Hop -it morphed in so many ways to get itself out there - in the UK it was Reggae- Drum and Bass-Ska-Uk Hip Hop-Jungle-Acid House-Acid Jazz-UK soul- Urban(these terms were always used when it wasn't really selling in a major truck load way because as soon as it sold huge it was termed "Pop" and re branded as having crossed over)But Music of Black origin will always find a way .
Now in this instance I will say that
Kanya had a dream and there will always be stuff that doesn't go quite to plan in any dream.But there will always be lots that does go to plan or infact goes EVEN better than planned and I'm all for dreamers who turn them into reality.I take a big picture view and dream big - I've had to - I'm from Walthamstow born in Hackney and I have sold a LOT of music - I have been to the Mobos many times and Glasgows Mobos in particular were brilliant this came after 12 years of hard graft from the dreamer they call Kanya.
I will go to many more too because.....
"No person has the right to rain on your dreams"
Martin Luther King.
MOBO needs a good old fashion
MOBO needs a good old fashion facelift. It needs to shutdown, rethink, rebrand and relaunch as a prestigious enterprise. From Mastercard/C4 to Lebara/BBC3. After 16 years of service to 'black music' it to should be Black AMEX and prime time C4 or ITV by now!
Its a shame that it is constantly attacked, but something is missing from their formula and business model. It needs to be seen doing more all year round as a brand as opposed to knocking on peoples doors a few months before the event. The MOBO brand/logo should be prominent at other music and industry events. There should be a MOBO Academy supporting community activities and bringing fresh and new UK talent though annually. It needs to be an event that is internationally respected and staging events globablly.
good lord
good lord
Hmmmmmm
As a young black woman I have come to understand that the only way I can be truly represented in this world is if I speak up. I haven't read the Voice newspaper for years...I'm here now to check in and see if there are any improvements...and there are not...If you are not connected to the black community how can you promote it?...How can you be its voice?...It's the same for the MOBO's. This isn't an issues it's a reality...Are any of these companies owned by the black community? If something is funded by another culture then how can it have any other identity? I'm not angry because as long as we have these outlets then my voice along with the next generation of black children will not need funded organisations we have the internet! A place where we can upload and tell the world about our culture. Where we will have our voices heard. Thank you to The Voice and MOBO's...but its time to step aside for the real black community.
Pathetic
How has MOBO become so misguided?? They have a WHOLE YEAR to prepare for this annual event and this is how they've decided to promote the event, which is supposed to be about black culture – by bringing in two white artists to hype up the show? What a slap in the face to artists like Estelle, who have been rep'ing our scene for so long. Jessie J's been around for two minutes and suddenly she epitomises 'music of black origin?' God only knows who Kanya King's advisors are but I think she needs some new ones! This event needs to go back to basics and provide that much-needed platform for black artists who, let's face it, still aren't getting the same level of exposure as white artists.
Unbelievable
MOBO just goes from bad to worse. No, they never will be able to please all the people all the time, as was proven in previous years with the hoo-ha caused by them not having a gospel/ jazz/ soul category. But while I understand how difficult it might be for them to include every GENRE of black music, failing to promote black ARTISTS is just ridiculous. I think the pressure to appease corporate sponsors has meant the event has strayed further and further from what it was set up to do.
get it together black limeys !!!!!!!
it would go down like dat in da states !!!!!!
"You wont go to the Country
"You wont go to the Country Music Awards and see lots of black musicians up for awards to lure in potential black buyers of country music.
Neither will you go to the Asian Music Awards and see Bollywood music represented by white or afro caribbean artists"
Exactly so why is it that we are the only race that seems ready to bow down easily and dilute our culture in order to be 'accepted' when others don't? We whine a lot as usual but have yet to develop a spine to deal with it after all these years.
Haven't watched MOBO for years - it lost is way a long time ago sucking up to the Yanks - RIP MOBO's you sold your soul to be accepted and you still haven't managed to get a prime time slot on tv shows how interested they are in our music.
Does anybody know who actually selects the MOBO's nominees because I don't?
no change in 30+ years
u r so right about our cultural acceptance. Everything we have seems to be legit only once sanctioned by this country or USA, whether it is positive or negative. In late 1970's i was excluded from school for having braids and beads in my hair. As soon a the film TEN came out, white girls were braiding and beading like crazy and none of them were excluded as i was.
MOBO is following in the footsteps of Notting hill carnival and unfortunately I think it is going to get worse.
no change in 30+ years
u r so right about our cultural acceptance. Everything we have seems to be legit only once sanctioned by this country or USA, whether it is positive or negative. In late 1970's i was excluded from school for having braids and beads in my hair. As soon a the film TEN came out, white girls were braiding and beading like crazy and none of them were excluded as i was.
MOBO is following in the footsteps of Notting hill carnival and unfortunately I think it is going to get worse.
Country music was actually
Country music was actually created by black people. In the late 19th century, many black country singers existed, by the early 20th century, whites were beginning the take over, but all the musicians used to back the white singers were usually black, as they were expert in the field.
In the 1930s, the introcuction of Bluegrass, which was created by white "hillbillies" changed the sound of country, and helped forge the idea country was entirely a white creation. But even by the 1960s, there still existed black country singers such as Charlie Pride who dominated the country charts. Over the years the black influence was pushed further aside, and today, country is almost entirely a white affair, except for the odd rapper like Snoop Dogg, who will rap country alongside Willie Nelson.
So r&b and soul being turned into white music is nothing new, its happened with other art forms.
The UK's not ready for black stars
The decision to have Jessie J and Katy B as the reps for this year's MOBOs says less about MOBO and more about the music industry. So much has been said over the past year or so about the success of black British talents like Chipmunk, Tinchy Stryder and Tinie Tempah. But looking at the British music scene as a whole, those guys are still small fry. Sadly, they don't have the same marketing pulling power as white stars and MOBO knows this.
Yep a real shame about the
Yep a real shame about the MOBO's. I think it's great that the MOBO's is still going, but it just seems the bigger it gets, the more it moves away from black culture. Look back a few years ago, there were stars like Beenie Man, R.Kelly and Wayne Wonder on the bill. A chance for black music fans to enjoy current hits we were used to. Jessie J and Katy B are not something the pirates or 'urban' stations are supporting.
All we need now is for bloody Reggie Yates to host with Fearne Cotton and it's over.
Well done The Voice for highlighting this and not running from it scared of them not advertising with you.
You wont go to the Country
You wont go to the Country Music Awards and see lots of black musicians up for awards to lure in potential black buyers of country music.
Neither will you go to the Asian Music Awards and see Bollywood music represented by white or afro caribbean artists.
You hardly see a black artist feature well at The Eurovision, with Andy Abraham, who is quite a good singer in his own right, not so long ago finishing last, in a field of fairly ordinary untalented singers. His race played a role in his finishing position.
However at the Music Of Black Origin Awards, the white singers are beginning to dominate. It isnt even really promoting multiculturalism, if they want to do that, why not have more singers of mixed black and white origin to show how Britain is diverse?
Its like the fact music producers prefer to use white artists and sign them, and black singers feel compelled to skin lighten to get ahead.
White supremacy is alive and well in all areas of the music industry, and black is often pushed to the back. Even of the black music awards.
Putting The Context Back In Conjecture
What you're saying re the MOBO's makes some degree of sense - but to be honest there's also a lot of nonsense in there.
The reason Andy Abraham 'finished last' has very little to do with his 'race' unless you consider that 'race' to be 'English'.
LOTS of British Eurovision entries have come close to the bottom in the past 10 years or so - for the simple reason that the rest of Europe has backlashed against British global musical domination (and arrogance!)
You're missing the point about Eurovision when you talk about how good the singers are - its the Eurovision SONG contest - its actually not about the singers at all - its SUPPOSED to be about the SONG.
There is an often mentioned thread which runs thru many black music listeners appreciation of pop music which seems to think that musical worth is based on who is the 'best' singer/musician. What this notion fails to grasp is that popular music in the West is NOT solely based around musical excellence - its actually a combination of many different things: quality of song/catchiness of the song, sexiness of the performer, fashion, soul of the performer, emotional content as well as hype, how 'on-point' a record is etc etc etc.
It is a pointless exercise to try to claim that one musician/singer is 'better' than another.
If we compared Mick Jagger with Pavarotti then on technical ground Pavarotti wins hands down - but he can't even begin to be what Mick Jagger has been. Similarly Tina Turner's voice compared to an opera singer.
Pop music is not about technical 'excellence' - it never has been - and hopefully never will be.
Similarly, I suspect re country music (not a fan myself) that there aren't an enormous amount of black musicians in country by comparison to country's core audience. The same with Asian music.
This mishmash of ideas is symptomatic of the problem here: the idea that western 'black music' is somehow separate from 'white music'. Whereas in fact the two are completely and inextricably linked and always have been throughout the history of western pop music. This is the very basis of the MOBO's in the first place.
Talking of 'music producers' choosing to use one race of people over another also shows an ignorance about how the UK and US music industries work. Unlike Jamaican music which has been traditionally led by independent producers, the UK and US industries have traditionally mostly been led by record labels signing up acts themselves and then farming them out TO producers. (While some Producers in the UK have been a source of talent spotting this has not traditionally been the mainstay of the industry)
While I completely agree that there has always been a blinkered attitude towards black artists in the UK - this is in large part due to the (arguably misguided) perception by record labels of potential available markets for black performers.
Its easy to forget for most of us growing up and living in major cities that black people in the UK only account for something like 2% of the population (according to wikipedia's data of the 2001 census: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_the_United_Kingdom#2001_Ce...)
This only rises to 3.2% if you include 'mixed race' in the figures. And compares with 4% for Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi and other non Chinese Asians.
This is in comparison to 92.14% of 'white' people.
Given the unique sub-cultural aspect to much black music in the UK its not then surprising that record labels would believe that 'black' music would not appeal to the mainstream groups of UK society.
Its important to note that hugely popular black artists such as Prince, Michael Jackson, Tina Turner, Jimi Hendrix, Bob Marley etc etc etc have become that internationally popular simply because the music they make has appeal to all genres of music lovers. (Something which has, ironically, had them labelled by many as 'selling out')
It would be easy to harp on about 'skin lightening' (which according to every single cosmetologist I've ever heard being interviewed seems to suggest that this is simply not possible in the way that the black public seems to believe it is) but then you have incredible and globally successful artists like Seal who have actually played on their dark skin as an asset.
You ramble on and on
You ramble on and on "anonymous" but you obviously get your information from wikipedia, and other public maintained .org sites.
You have an idea in your head of how things run, and it isnt based on reality but on your own opinion of things.
1. Non white British people are now 1 in 6, according to the recent census, maybe if you followed the news you would know this. This means that whites are no longer 94% of the population as in 2001. This is a lot to do with the shrinking birth rate of white British, and as a result immigration has had to increase as there simply are not the numbers of young whites to fill many jobs, and care for the massive rise in elderly in Britain, and both require the youth. If 1 in 6 are non white, then 83 percent of Britain are non white. In England this is even higher. The Black British population is a lot higher than 2%, the official cencus havent broken down the 16.67 yet, but expect black to be as high as 7%, and in London possibly up from 12% on the 2001 cencus to over 20%.
At school level in London, whites are the minority, despite being the majority overall, many are past the age of 30, many middle aged, and many retired. Many of the youngest Londoners are non white, as most whites have very few children.
This means the "percentage argument" is thrown out the window, and we must therefore look at the reality. Which is that the music industry is using bias in deciding who to promote, and discriminating against non whites.
I love researching facts and figures, to counter tha many arguments put forward to justify the status quo.
*I just posted a comment I
*I just posted a comment I wrote 83% of britain are NON white, I meant 83% of Britain are white, and 16.67 percent non white.
Please correct my error, thank you
Come on MOBO!
By stressing this issue about the music's 'origin', it seems MOBO has forgotten that the 'B' stands for black. Using white stars to represent black music is like an admission that those white singers have more value than, or are more worthy than any of the black singers that could have been chosen to fill those spots. You'd expect that from the Brit Awards, but for a black-owned company to make such a decision, it makes it all the more disappointing.
As usual we black people
As usual we black people always have to share the limelight with white people while they continue to hog and dominate everything. We need to have something that is just for us and nobody else. We need to start putting our black people on high pedestals. The MOBO awards will soon be like the Brit awards it will no longer be for black people. To be honest if we continue to live in this multicultural society we will always have to compromise ourselves due to the lack of power we have as a black community, meaning that anything we do for ourselves white people are always going to want piece of the pie so they can take over as they always do.
Sheer Numbers
Bless you - its called 'sheer numbers'
Its easy to forget for most of us growing up and living in major cities that black people in the UK only account for something like 2% of the population (according to wikipedia's data of the 2001 census: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_the_United_Kingdom#2001_Ce...)
This only rises to 3.2% if you include 'mixed race' people in the figures. And compares with 4% for Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi and other non Chinese Asians.
This is in comparison to 92.14% of 'white' people (British, 'other' and Irish).
16.67% of British people are
16.67% of British people are now non white, The newest census reveals this. Though they havent broken it down, I expect at least half of that to be black people. In England the figure is higher still, and at its highest in London.
The British white population is aging, and their birth rate continues to fall. This means immigration is vital to fill many jobs and services, and obviously young are needed to care for the massive growing elderly population.
In London, whites are the majority overall, but are now a minority in many parts at school level, this means many young people are either black or asian. This means the "2%" argument to justify non inclusion of blacks in things like Mobo is no longer justified. Blacks make up over 20% of Londoners, up from 12% in 2001. Black youth deserve to be better represented at events such as MOBO.
Do you have a link for the
Do you have a link for the stat you just quoted? I ask mainly because as far as I know, census results from the 2011 data aren't being released until sometime in 2012?